Confucius meets Lao Tzu
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Laozi tells his son that it is better to treat respectfully a beaten enemy, and that the disrespect to their dead would cause his foes to seek revenge. Convinced, Zong orders his soldiers to bury the enemy dead. Funeral mourning is held for the dead of both parties and a lasting peace is made.
Episode Chuang Tzu’s Taoism: What Is Wisdom?
Many clans of the Li family trace their descent to Laozi,  including the emperors of the Tang dynasty. According to the Simpkinses, while many if not all of these lineages are questionable, they provide a testament to Laozi's impact on Chinese culture.
He ventured west to live as a hermit in the unsettled frontier at the age of At the western gate of the city or kingdomhe was recognized by the guard Yinxi. The sentry asked the old master to record his wisdom for the good of the country before he would be permitted to pass. The text Laozi wrote was said to be the Tao Te Ching, although the present version of the text includes additions from later periods.
In some versions of the tale, the sentry was so touched by the work that he became a disciple and left with Laozi, never to be seen again.
Others say he was the Buddha himself. Laozi pretended to be a farmer when reaching the western gate, but was recognized by Yinxiwho asked to be taught by the great master.
Stories of Lao Tzu, Confucius, and Chuang Tzu
Laozi was not satisfied by simply being noticed by the guard and demanded an explanation. Yinxi expressed his deep desire to find the Tao and explained that his long study of astrology allowed him to recognize Laozi's approach. Yinxi was accepted by Laozi as a disciple. This is considered an exemplary interaction between Taoist master and disciple, reflecting the testing a seeker must undergo before being accepted. A would-be adherent is expected to prove his determination and talent, clearly expressing his wishes and showing that he had made progress on his own towards realizing the Tao.
Yinxi received his ordination when Laozi transmitted the Tao Te Ching, along with other texts and precepts, just as Taoist adherents receive a number of methods, teachings and scriptures at ordination. This is only an initial ordination and Yinxi still needed an additional period to perfect his virtue, thus Laozi gave him three years to perfect his Tao.
Yinxi gave himself over to a full-time devotional life. After the appointed time, Yinxi again demonstrates determination and perfect trust, sending out a black sheep to market as the agreed sign.
He eventually meets again with Laozi, who announces that Yinxi's immortal name is listed in the heavens and calls down a heavenly procession to clothe Yinxi in the garb of immortals.
The story continues that Laozi bestowed a number of titles upon Yinxi and took him on a journey throughout the universe, even into the nine heavens.
After this fantastic journey, the two sages set out to western lands of the barbarians. The training period, reuniting and travels represent the attainment of the highest religious rank in medieval Taoism called "Preceptor of the Three Caverns". In this legend, Laozi is the perfect Taoist master and Yinxi is the ideal Taoist student. Laozi is presented as the Tao personified, giving his teaching to humanity for their salvation. Yinxi follows the formal sequence of preparation, testing, training and attainment.
As Taoism took root, Laozi was worshipped as a god. Belief in the revelation of the Tao from the divine Laozi resulted in the formation of the Way of the Celestial Mastersthe first organized religious Taoist sect. In later mature Taoist tradition, Laozi came to be seen as a personification of the Tao. He is said to have undergone numerous "transformations" and taken on various guises in various incarnations throughout history to initiate the faithful in the Way.
Lap Tzu was clearly a deep thinker, which makes it all the more ironic that he gets accused of spouting all sorts of saccharine New Age piffle. One of the stories of how the book came about goes like this: Lao Tzu was the Keeper of the Royal Archives. Late in his life, he wearied of the intrigues, the corruption and the crassness of life at court. He decided to go live the remainder of his life as a hermit in the mountains.
At the city gate, the sentry asked him to write down his wisdom. The result was the Tao Teh Ching. Like with many religious, political or philosophical figures, take any story or claims with a grain of salt. Stories get embellished by both supporters and enemies over the centuries. Since the earliest copy of the text is at least years younger than Lao Tzu, and there are no verifiable records that identify him as the sole author, this theory strikes me as having some merit.
After all, every single religious work I can think of has been edited, added to, cut away from and interpreted by hundreds of human hands in the interim since it was first penned. Why not this one?
Laozi - Wikipedia
What matters is not the author: Take, for example, the opening verse: The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao The name that can be named is not the eternal name The nameless is the origin of Heaven and Earth The named is the mother of myriad things Thus, constantly without desire, one observes its essence Constantly with desire, one observes its manifestations These two emerge together but differ in name The unity is said to be the mystery Mystery of mysteries, the door to all wonders.
Scholars and philosophers have debated and expanded on this and every verse in the Tao Teh Ching ever since it was first penned. Not necessarily with any consensus.
And as a mere lay person, I can only read their interpretations and wonder how such deep thought gets polluted with New Age folderol. This site also has several other sayings mis-attributed to Lao Tzu. So many of these mis-attributions are simply wishful thinking: Then they add a kitten or a baby or an angel or a rainbow to the quote and voila: Yet this sort of generalization seems to resonate with some of the hard-of-thinking crowd.
I found these comments on reddit: Man, this is exactly what I needed to read. Then, when I think about the future, I get incredibly anxious and worried.
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